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Posted: 06/13/2010 08:27 PM
It was a great party, I enjoyed it, and will return. This ain't my first rodeo, but.....I'm seeing some things that are a little disturbing. Ok, yeah yer right, a stabbing can occur anywhere.But is there some way we can refrain from the burnouts, or at least put a stop to 'exhibition' riding when folks are drunk on their azz in heavy traffic? Though in a few cases it appears that the gene pool kinda took care of itself, how many more injuries is it gonna take?
Oh, another thing. This will apply to the amateurs. Unbelievable. I am simply non-plussed when I see peoplethrowing glass beer bottles on the parade route. Really? Is yer mommy gonna be by any day now to pick it up foryou? A flat tire on a bike can run $250 or more, all because someone is too danged lazy to walk 10 feet to a trash can. Glass beer bottles. Bike rally. Glass beer bottles. Bike rally. Hmm.Overall good job tho, kudos to those that made it work!
Posted: 06/13/2010 08:58 PM
I thought it was quite ironic that the deputies and rot staff alike would warn you if you stopped "too" long on the parade route yet when the burn outs and wheelies were going on no one said a thing to them! hhmmmm when did stopping a few minutes cause more harm than acting STUPID on your bike in the middle of a crowd?
Posted: 06/14/2010 08:50 AM
The parade route this year seemed very calm in comparison, but I do agree that the Burnouts are dangerous. I had to rinse out my wifes eye due to some rubber being thrown off a tire. We also saw a guy who would pull up behind his friends bike to use it as a brake and then just burn the tire down.. The only funny thing about is when he tried to do it again he missed the back tire and bent his buddys fender and light mount. Of course I dont even think his buddy noticed.
Other than that it was great, and Brett Michael rocked. It felt like being in High School again.. See yall next year.
Posted: 06/14/2010 10:35 AM
yogi said: and Brett Michael rocked
and Brett Michael rocked
I wondered how the concert went off, I never made it to the armpitheater, did hear a horror story of traffic control after, tho.
Yeah glass just doesn't do well in a crowd, cans or plastic, that should just be good common sense........oh wait....you mentioned the gene pool.....Street
Posted: 06/14/2010 10:40 AM
Ok folks,Thursday night the m&g was fun and I enjoyed meeting all of you. Went and had something to eat and got on the parade route about 10pm,about 3/4 around my first time a drunk slammed into me so hard it broke my rearend shackel on my golf cart taking it out of commission for the duration of the rot, also the wreck threw one of his riders down on the trailer he was pulling so hard & hitting a steel beam cutting one hell of a gash in her forhead.This guy was so drunk english was not in his vocabulary, he litteraly could not walk! On Friday night some idiot on the back of a golf cart making the cart do wheelies did this trick, they ran it into the crowd making everyone dive for cover only ending up ramming a toy hauler tearing the hell out of it. The burnouts do not bother me, except when they do them at 3am like they were doing it Saturday night between yellow section and green section, and the crotch rockets running 120 mph in 3rd gear through the parking lot between yellow and green at 2-3am they would race back and forth.
This was damb sure not my 1st rodeo, But places like Buffallo chip at Sturgis ( ONE OF THE LARGEST BIKER PARTY PLACES FOR BIKERS IF NOT THE LARGEST) would not let some of this stuff slide. I believe in having a good time, but when you endanger other people and there property it's time for action. I have seen Glencove camp ground( in Sturgis) throw people out for a whole lot less. Saturday at 2a.m. when those idiots were racing back and forth between green and yellow section, 3hrs earlier there was security and a deputy there, what time did there shift end (between the green sections close to the impound area). In a parking lot, at 2am, at that speed, no helmet, people walking back from parade route still, this was a recipe for disaster, and law suits!!
Other than that we rode 575 miles on Friday and Saturday and had a lot of fun.
Posted: 06/14/2010 10:49 AM
liferider said: a drunk slammed into me so hard it broke my rearend shackel on my golf cart taking it out of commission for the duration of the rot,
a drunk slammed into me so hard it broke my rearend shackel on my golf cart taking it out of commission for the duration of the rot,
I'm serious here, I hear what you are saying and couldn't agree more. I was staying in Yellow and heard every one of those a$$holes.
Did the drunk make arrangements for restitution?
Posted: 06/14/2010 11:40 AM
Street said:I'm serious here, I hear what you are saying and couldn't agree more. I was staying in Yellow and heard every one of those a$holes.Did the drunk make arrangements for restitution?
I'm serious here, I hear what you are saying and couldn't agree more. I was staying in Yellow and heard every one of those a$holes.
Restitution!!! Thats funny!!!!! LOL !!!!!! I'm serious he was so drunk he could NOT walk, all he could say was " Oh man that's *ucked up man", I'm quite sure the older lady who had to have her head stiched up gave him hell the next morning! I know head cuts always look bad, and they bleed alot but her cut was 5" across just over her eye brows.The plastic surgons bill should be quite expensive.Plus how do you get blood from a turnup? What do you do write up a police report, save the head ache and fix it myself.
Posted: 06/14/2010 02:11 PM
Street really what do you do when that happens?
Posted: 06/14/2010 02:13 PM
This was second ROT rally. Last year we played the Saturday only crowd and camped. This year we RVed it from Thursday till the wheels fell off.
I noticed Saturday during the day as we were cruising around the number of casts on legs and arms in slings, skid marks on faces arms and legs. That my friends is dangerous. If you got that shit either someone around you was being an asshole or you may have been the ass. I love having a good time but it doesn't mean endangering the people around you. Unfortunatley its hard to control. The police IMO did a good job with what they had to work with. They can't prevent it all.
Assholes will be assholes (this is PG rated compared to what they really are) For the most part it was a good crowd. Some areas were definately more rowdy than others. We stayed in the purple area so all I can speak for is our surrounding neighbors they seemed to be pretty laid back having a good time. ROT has gotten huge and is more than just a "biker" rally unfortunately. We enjoyed ourselves but I am thinking we are going to be hitting some of the smaller more personable rallys to have the biker weekend and not a 20 somethings party just to party. If your 20 something and your on this forum that comment more than likely doesn't point your way so simmer down. I would hope if your active on hear you know better.
The scars and battle wounds we saw were on the younger crowd for the most part. They will learn just like we did. I wasn't innocent either...just a little more smart.
Posted: 06/14/2010 05:59 PM
I know just what you mean we were in the Jumbo yellow 1-3 and we heard the jerks... And I would say it was the younger ones doing most of the damage...the jerks stole my blow up doll " Louanna "I have had for the last 3 years on the last night... As you said the police did do a very good job... And I thank each and eveyone of them... But someone needs to teach them that when a girl or women tell them NO, when they are yelling show up your tits and p*** , they in turn start calling you a BITCH and saying that is why you are here for!!!! Thats really uncalled for would you like Our Husband and sons saying thing like that your sister, daughter, wife, granmother, MOM and even your girlfriend.... Sorry just had to get that off my chest... almost feel better but not much.. But I'll be back next year 2011...
Posted: 06/14/2010 06:18 PM
Well, Im glad we stayed behind PB, the only thing that I heard was a couple arguing, but someone hollered shut the F up and few minutes later they got quite...So Im pretty happy where we stayed...
However while on the parade rt. I told people not to spray me with water and they did it anyway and that pissed me off! I was having chills from being sunburned and it just made me colder...so for those who got me wet thanks for ruining my time on the PR, other than that I had a great time...
Enjoyed all the people we meet, and hubby wants to go again next year! So I guess we will see ya in 2011
Posted: 06/14/2010 07:13 PM
The burnouts also happened in the Blue RV area. Also idiots sitting still in traffic and reving thier bikes till it would bounce off the rev limiter.
I did notice a lot of young men walking along the parade route in small groups that were wearing ghetto thug fashions that included the shorts or pants that hung down to the knees in the crotch and showed thier ass or underwear, hats on sideway, drinking and smoking cigars, no beads, but yelling at all the women. Looked like they would have been more at home on cops tv show than at a bike rally.
People with glass containers should use commons sense.
Posted: 06/14/2010 07:24 PM
Top, I noticed the same thing about the young men and ghetto fashions, the ones that I saw looked like they were looking for trouble. I would like to see the cops doing a better job controlling the burnouts and speeding on the parade route. I think they do a great job, but I'm afraid someone doing a burnout eventually will take a bunch of people out.
Posted: 06/14/2010 07:41 PM
It seemed like everything wanted to go wrong for us this time; golf cart broke down, had to replace the batteries (SAMS has the best prices), one of the new ones was bad and burned a hole in the top at 2:30 Friday morning, and my bike charging system broke down.
That being said, I had more fun than any one person should be allowed to have. I would hate to see what it would have been like if everything went right.
I do have to say the burnouts and revving the engines till they either break down or overheat. There was some careless riding and driving, but you have to expect that to some degree. I do have to say that I didn't see the ROT staff or cops being as involved as they had in the past. Last year they seemed more actively involved with the crowd and kept things under control better.
We will return next year, without a doubt. The great times with our friends was very worthwhile and I wouldn't miss it for anything.
Posted: 06/14/2010 08:58 PM
I had a great time. Met some people from here that I didnt get a chance to last year. Thanks again for the meet and greet Spirit. I enjoyed that very much. Went by the Shack out back a few times but I guess I had bad timing never could catch any one. ( maybe 4 or 5 am was bad timing) But I still got a chance to meet Mel at the m&g. Lost my ryobi radio out the golf cart, I think. Maybe some one just needed it more than me. Not exactly sure about that one. Never even took my camera out of the rv. All in all it was ROT again. Oh and I'll never tell about all the things I seen.
Doctor my eyes have seen the years, the slow parade of .........bikers at ROT
Posted: 06/14/2010 10:16 PM
Had a blast at the rally, did not not hear all that noise from the red lot(or maybe it was that the alcohol helped me sleep hard). Only problem someone took our ROT chairs from our camp. See ya'll next year.
Posted: 06/15/2010 07:19 AM
My biggest problem was the hay that some wise person decided to shove into all the water in the ditches.
1. It got slick
2. It hid that nasty water and our peeps stepped into it
3. It kept the water from evaporating
4. It soured and the stench was putrid
5. After repeated requests for something to be done to remove it, or even find a rake so WE could remove it, nothing was done
On the upside of this situation, it killed my appetite and I lost 2 more pounds!
Apple Pie for everyone!
Posted: 06/15/2010 09:34 AM
THE VIP TICKETS SUCKED!!!!! NOT WORTH IT!!!!!!!! NOT EVEN TREATED LIKE VIP!!!!!! IT FEELS LIKE I PAYED $300 for 2 T-shirts CRAP BS!!!!!!! NEVER AGAIN and i will make sure i tell everyone else not to get them!!!! Highway robbery.. Other then that it was a great Week. I am going to BOYCOTT VIP TICKETS NEXT YEAR!!!!! WHO IS WITH ME!!!! THE BIKER FOR BABIES T-SHIRT IS BETTER THEN THE ROT T-SHIRT!!!!!
Posted: 06/15/2010 01:31 PM
Oh my, where to begin.....After our long trip down on Wed. (see How our rally started), we deviced to kick off our rally with a tour of the parede route. Not much happening. The hilight of the night was the midnight toast at the FUB. The late night parade route was alot calmer than last years. Missed the M&G due to a late start on a ride (sorry Spirit, hope the turn out was good). It seemed that the parade route was full of guys this year. Alot of them were rude (not giving beads out, rude comments, wanting more than just a look). Some of the carts are the size of a truck now, and when they stop in the middle of the road the traffic backs up. The bikers were pissed at the cart drivers and the cart drivers were not yealding to the bikes. Maybe I am over it, but this years rally didn't seem like the past rallies had been. The burn outs and reving of the engines was a problem, again. They have no respect for the people around them.
Bret rocked Saturday, so glad to see him make it.
Overall we all had fun.
Posted: 06/15/2010 04:32 PM
Killerabbit said: It seemed that the parade route was full of guys this year. Alot of them were rude (not giving beads out, rude comments, wanting more than just a look
It seemed that the parade route was full of guys this year. Alot of them were rude (not giving beads out, rude comments, wanting more than just a look
We noticed the same thing. Looks like attendance was down somewhat. Saw one dude revving his engine with the pipes glowing. I have never understood that or maybe I don't want to hurt mine. My two cents.
Posted: 06/16/2010 03:54 AM
bbird76020 said: Saw one dude revving his engine with the pipes glowing. I have never understood that or maybe I don't want to hurt mine
Saw one dude revving his engine with the pipes glowing. I have never understood that or maybe I don't want to hurt mine
Right....... I rely on my bike for riding. I will rev the engine in fun, but I'm not going to hold in the limiter like these other guys. The best thing I saw was at ROT 2009. A guy acting all cool reving his chopper and blew out the oil plug. He had oil all over him and the bike. All I could do was laugh and point out his stupidity.
Posted: 06/16/2010 03:03 PM
Sounds like most of us agree that things were more out of control this year. It's not just the cops fault, there were a lot of "thugs" hanging around. How many outlaw biker gangs were there? The Bandenoes are polite compared to some of these guys. They are party crashers.
There were not enough staff to control things anyway. I get the impression that ROT has budget problems. I agree with the Sturgis thing. They no doubt went through this and learned that it has to be controled. I hate to see that happen though. "Party responsibly." It is an ADULT event. So, act like an adult. We all loved the tits, but it's very rude to demand to see them.
Posted: 06/16/2010 04:29 PM
goose said: Sounds like most of us agree that things were more out of control this year. It's not just the cops fault, there were a lot of "thugs" hanging around. How many outlaw biker gangs were there? The Bandenoes are polite compared to some of these guys. They are party crashers.There were not enough staff to control things anyway. I get the impression that ROT has budget problems. I agree with the Sturgis thing. They no doubt went through this and learned that it has to be controled. I hate to see that happen though. "Party responsibly." It is an ADULT event. So, act like an adult. We all loved the tits, but it's very rude to demand to see them.
The Sturgis Police department goes from 3 men to over 100 for the main week and both weekends of the Rally. A friend of mine who is a cop in Rapid city takes a weeks vacation to work the rally as a cop, they pay him very well for his time. His biggest comment he tells me is, #1 everyone has to know the rules, look at every street corner you will see a pair of cops or 2 pair but never just 1 cop. #2 It's a party but like all things there are limits to everything. #3 When ANYONE crosses that line, via it be a nipple in public, a beer on the street, a roach found in your pocket YOU GO TO JAIL PERIOD!!!!!!Roll through a stop sign by the broken spoke salloon, Drive through a cross walk with people crossing, walk down the street really drunk, see how fast a ticket gets written. You can NOT have a rally this large with all the huge gangs, Hells Angels, Bandittos, Sons of Silence, Warriors without order, and rules!! The BIGGEST problem he says are the PUNKS, the WANT TO BE GANGSTERS, the 21 yr olds who think there bad enough to walk into a bar of real Hell's Angels and flip one off. The largest expence the town bears all year is that payroll, they make the money back in sales taxes collected during the rally, and in the fines imposed on the screwups. BUT you must have some show of order and organization.
I agree with him and the ROT (especially this year) pushes that fine line of order and organization. In 2009 only 1 attempted murder happened between 2 gang members in Custer State Park, I believe when you stab someone like what happened Saturday night, thats attempted murder.
Posted: 06/16/2010 05:21 PM
liferider said: stab someone like what happened Saturday night
stab someone like what happened Saturday night
Where was this?
Posted: 06/16/2010 05:26 PM
This was my 6th year for ROT, my group had a great time with very few problems.
Burn outs are always scary and we sure could use some control over those.
Last two years it seems like an increase in the wanna bees trying to cause problems.
Parade route is one of the biggest & I would hate for it to get shut down.
I have a couple questions about Sturgis, since I have never been.
Is everyone in one basic area like ROT or scattered like Daytona?
It sounds like if you drop a beer can or have a joint in your pocket or stagger down the street you go directly to jail.
Thank goodness none of my group would do any of those things.
Does anyone know what the Violent Crime Rate is Sturgis compared to ROT?
I have heard the Riding around Sturgis is great, so is Sturgis more of a Riding Rally than a Party Rally cause we all know ROT is more of a Party Rally than Riding Rally, even though I live in the Hill Country & we have fantastic riding
It sounds to me like these are very different types of Rally's
I sure don't want ROT to go down the tubes, so maybe we can give the organizers some good constructive criticism
Hopefully the Braggs haven't gotten so arrogant that they don't listen.
They do need constructive input not just complaints, it seems like everyone on this page knows a lot about Rallys
Maybe we can help
Thanks for listening
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